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January 30, 2008

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Mark

Here's the early 20th Theodore Roosevelt appointed Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' solution:

"Even the United States Supreme Court endorsed aspects of eugenics. In its infamous 1927 decision, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, "It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough." This decision opened the floodgates for thousands to be coercively sterilized or otherwise persecuted as subhuman. Years later, the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials quoted Holmes's words in their own defense."

I was looking up information on eugenics for something completely different, come to your site (as it seems I a new loyal liberal reader), saw you had some new stuff, and thought it might fit. Actually, it fits marginally to the discussion. But the philosophy was that the stupid, incompetent, etc shouldn't be able to breed. Hence, America had a eugenics policy (that was practiced) prior to Nazi Germany.

The problem with most people being ill informed is apathy and cynicism. It doesn't necessarily mean that voters are stupid, per se; it has more to do with us not seeing the difference between the two parties. The media doesn't really inform us on the issues, objective journalism doesn't exist on the right or left. And political races have become a cult of personality. The problem of the American electorate is far more complex than you portray. One final thought for the night (Alaska is 1 hour behind Pacific time, 4 hours from EST):

THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE RAILING AGAINST DON'T VOTE. I'll repeat myself unnecessarily - STUPID PEOPLE DON'T USUALLY REGISTER TO VOTE, THEY DON'T VOTE IN PRIMARIES (a better indication of performing your civic duty than voting in the general election), AND THEY DON'T VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. Sorry for the cap lock, just my "screaming" the point home.

Mark

Rereading what I just wrote, I need to clarify a point. How I got from voter tests to eugenics. Stripping a person of the franchise because you perceive them not to be competent enough to participate in the political process can lead you to ever slippery thinking such as "they should breed either." Quite a stretch, yes, but since I was thinking about the issue of eugenics and it just seemed to fit. There may be no real logic in it, I'll be the first to concede, but that's the kind of thought that led the eugenicists to eugenics in the first place. History is a record of what people have done and what they are often going to do again.

USA Conservative

Mark,

Stupid is a relative term. Informed may be more apt, but the bottom-line is if they don't know the basics of who is running and what the issues are, why should we let them cancel out the vote of an educated voter? My point is we shouldn't.

Concerning your point that the people I'm am railing against don't vote, on a per capita basis they may vote in smaller numbers, but as we see in Florida 2000, it doesn't take a huge number of votes to swing an election. That being said, this post is written on the principal that the ill-informed have not earned the right to vote, not a blueprint for how conservatives could win more elections (though that would be a welcome byproduct).

In short, voting would no longer be a right bestowed on you when you reach the age 18. It would be a right that you earn at election time by proving that your voice is worthy to join the pool of knowledgeable, civically responsible voters.

A.L.

Honestly, I don't know if people could ever "earn" the right to vote. Sounds good but most want a quick fix. I mean who has time to investigate everything? I know the issues...at least most of them...but I'm a news-obsessed junkie.

The average mom, and I'll use mom's as an example because I have two kids, are generally overworked, over car-pooled, and under-appreciated. That stuff breeds apathy. For example, what do I do at night when I've picked up my last kid from an activity? Go through the drive-thru at McDonald's for dinner. The kids like it, it's cheap, and everybody's happy. Is it the best for them? Apparently not because a guy sued McDonald's and won because it made him fat. But you know what, it sure did taste good going down.

Unfortunately, in this country, the quest for the "quick fix" has bred a multitude of problems. People try to be informed, they don't have time, so they just go to those they think they can trust. I mean, if "Oprah" says he's good...then darn it, he must be good? Right? Please know I'm being facitious here because I'm as Republican as they come. But I think, a lot of what happens with women voters is lack of time to investigate issues.

What can be done to help? Why don't you take the two guys that are duking it out right now...McCain and Romney...and size up foreign affairs, the economy, and healthcare. I will glady circulate it around to my address book and get the "word" out.

Tim

(chiming in 7 months later ...)

I think it would be more useful if politicians and all public employees (from DMV workers to cops to military enlistees) be tested on the U.S. Constitution.

Unfortunately, George W Bush would not have passed either test, and I think that of our current pres contenders, Obama would kick McCain's ass in the Constitution test. Let's see, 1st percentile or 96th .... Decades in the Senate don't make you intelligent, or sane, and certainly not ethical or steadfast in convictions.

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